FIGMA Hot Sauce Brand Design Challenge

Up? Welcome to STOKE Sessions. We're on season two episode six. Today, I'm joined with a plethora of design talent here at Mag. I've got Manny Salazar, ACD at Mag, Bernadette Marconi, senior designer at Mag, Thomas, another senior designer at Mag. Noah, designer at Mag.

And then I've got DC joining us as the executive creative director.

We're here to review another Figma challenge this week, which is really cool. It's a spicy one, so get ready for it. I'm gonna have these guys kick us off and, get started on the on the whole design challenge and just kind of the background of what, what they've been working on for the past few weeks, I believe. So, DC, if you wanna give us a little insight on what you guys have been working through here.

Yeah. We've been doing this as just a internal design flex with the, creative team. We've been doing a couple years. We got paused, but I was starting back to starting this back up and, just kinda wanna put it out there. It's kinda been lived in isolation and in its own little cave with, no eyeballs on it. So this is really the design team's opportunity to flex without client, right, just to do something creative.

Each month, we have a theme, and, I think this week or this month, Burn, you threw out the theme. Right? The theme is hot sauce. So we'll be going through everybody's exploration with the theme of hot sauce. Some did branding, some did, you know, product detail page.

Some are just high level concepts, but, yeah, the the spicy idea this this month was hot sauce. So, excited to see what everybody worked on and and present these.

Yeah. I mean, too. I've seen a couple of previews to them, but I haven't seen the whole the whole kit and caboodle here. So, super psyched on it.

I know the ones that I have seen have been, pretty mind blowing. So excited to get into it. And I think, Manny, we're gonna start off with you. We'll do a do a review of what you, came up with for the hot sauce Figma design challenge here.

Yeah. Absolutely. I'm stoked to share mine.

I guess I'll kick mine off with just a little bit, behind the curtain with the concept.

Mine started from one of those just kind of shower ideas, you know, as I was thinking through, like, what do I wanna do, with the design brief being, hey. It could be an existing hot sauce or something you come up with new. I thought it'd be fun to, try to do something new, and I kept thinking about kind of that phrase, having a fire in your belly. And, you you know, that meaning that's something that you're passionate about, that you have sort of, like, some angst about or that, like, some motivation to go and you're hungry for.

So I I thought it'd be a cool concept of a brand, sort of a spin off liquid death. You know, how playful it is of just saying, hey. Let's put some fire in your belly. So, that was really the concept of motivation.

From there, I started doing some research into, like, hey. Is there any kind of, like, mythological fire kind of things that I can pull into this? And, what I came across was a cool story about the goddess of Hawaiian volcanoes and fire. And I was like, absolutely.

So that's where my concept was sparked from. So, with that, let me go ahead and share my screen.

Let me let me caveat this before you share, Minnie. I wanna, put this out there. Just so you know, this isn't something we spend a ton of time on. This is typically, you know, a little four hour sprint, little couple hour sprint everybody does. So it's we're not putting a, you know, massive amount of energy in it. It's it's a fun little creative exercise where we set aside a few hours to just flex for a little bit.

So just wanna put that caveat out there.

Yeah. Yeah.

Definitely. And behind behind the scenes of all the all the actual work that we're doing for all of our clients each month. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So sometimes you have the availability or sometimes you're just inspired. I know plenty of times in the past, I've taken mine after hours on weekend just because it's super fun.

You know, you get the ball rolling. You wanna keep going. Unfortunately, this month, I didn't have that much time to put into it, but I did get enough where I was like, hey. As you can see here, here's my concept.

That goddess I mentioned before is known as Pele or Tutu Pele, which is immensely fun to say.

And, so I I just went ahead and and used AI to my advantage. I really wanted to think through, like, hey. If I had my dream scenario, like, it'd be cool to have this product photography marketing shot of, like, lock volcano birthing from lava this hot sauce. And so, you know, with the limited time that I have, I just leaned on AI to give me this asset as a working starter.

I leaned into a bunch of typography that I thought would be nice, kind of have these sharp edges. It's refined, but very full of characteristics.

I had a little bit of fun with, like, putting an emergency help button and making some, buttons or tags, and then, just a a straight up landing page that I thought was a little nontraditional. You know, I've done a lot of, more traditional landing page or sorry, product pages as of late where, you know, we show the product, we show the information, but I thought it'd be cool to have more of a full image with a scrolling sidebar. So thought that I would kinda map that out here as a beginning. So, yeah, man, it was it was fun. I'm really excited to see if it could even go further. You know?

It's something in my downtime, but I think the concept was there, and I had fun doing it.

That's dope. Let's see.

Do you remember any of the the prompts that you used for the for the imagery?

Oh, great question. No. I don't. I'd have to get back to you on that one.

But, Yeah.

I I have my go to, you know, ultra sharp four k. You You know, maybe I say depth of field or, you know, highly realistic and whatnot. But, I think it was just sort of, like, the hot sauce product, you know, from volcano or something. I'm not sure.

Got it. Yeah.

I think the the, sorry, Matt.

I think the Go ahead. Sensible thinking of this one was was really cool, Manny. I just, like, dipping into that folklore and that, you know, goddess, idea, and you're right. Like, the one thing I I even after I I saw this and you showed this to me, I couldn't stop saying Tutu Pele.

Like, it's so fun to say. You're right. It's like like, something sticky about that. But, yeah, love the, like, conceptual thinking and backing into Hawaiian folklore around this around this.

Yeah.

I'm gonna have to share a song with with all you guys.

It's called Tu Tu Tu Tu Tu Tu. And, we we stumbled upon this song on a camping trip, and the kids and I were just, like, freaked out by it. But, I don't know that it would go perfectly with, like, the volcanic ashes and fire and everything, but it's a fun one either way. I'll I'll definitely drop it in as a this little background tracker.

Yeah, man. That'd be awesome.

That's dope, Manny. Well, thanks for sharing, dude.

Thanks, man. Yeah. Of course.

Alright. Burn, you're in the hot seat. Let's see what you came up with.

Alright. No pressure. So oh, here we go. Can you all see me?

Yes.

Alright.

So heat waves.

I've been really, really listening to the song heat waves by Glass Animals a lot when I made this, and and I just thought it'd be a really cool hot sauce name. And, initially, I explored, like, all these really bright colors kinda like the music video.

And I actually ended up landing in more of, like, a digital look and feel.

And the label is kind of inspired by, three d printers. They always have this little hot zone do not touch symbol on there. So, Yeah. Anything else about the look and feel?

We're referring to hot sauce as a meal accessory throughout this page, which I kinda enjoy.

I like that.

Yeah. Yeah. Any kind of sauce. It's just, you know, that final touch that you really need.

Have you actually had a hot reaper and and pineapple hot sauce before? Because it sounds good.

Yeah. You know, my brother got me one a couple years ago, and it's pretty good. I he got me a couple of Reaper hot sauces, actually.

They're Used with caution.

Great. You gotta exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Don't don't get that in your eyeballs.

Definitely not.

Yeah. I love what you did with the heat waves up at the top too. That that's, like, such a rad little mind fuck to me right now.

Thank you. That's kinda what I was going for. Kinda wish to see a little bit more of that carried through the bottle, but maybe, hey, we give it a round two since this is a quick one.

Our Our menu and hamburger are kind of nestled in, same with the logo. I really wanted to explore this little card style that had a stationary item and then, little bit more interaction focused on this project for me. So we have our heat wave scroller bar across here.

Our, different, bits of information about the hot sauce is kind of the focus of the secondary card. And then from there, we get more styles to accessorize your meal with a, crema, cayenne, and then our reaper hot sauce.

So, yeah, that's kinda what we got going on here.

So don't simplicity. Like, it's just straight to the point. Like, I mean, that's kinda what you want in a product detail page. Right? Just enough information to get somebody interested and add the stamp thing to cart.

Yeah. Definitely wanted to keep it simple enough, but still play up the fun parts. You know? Simplicity in a in a different way. But yeah.

Yeah. It's like a an electric utilitarian vibe. You know? It's like this hybrid between machine machine industrial and, like, electric with that color pop. So it's really fun.

Yeah. Nice work. Nice work. Nice work. No. You wanna you wanna rip open a share screen here?

Yeah. I sure can. Let me get that going. Okay.

Vern, I love how those other those all alternate flavors are jumping off the page too, like, with the stark black and yellow, and then you see the the red and blue down there. So dope.

Thank you. Yeah. I really wanted to contrast the actual sauce color. I I'd love to actually kind of explore them a bit further.

I wanna try them.

Right?

That too.

Nice. So can everybody see my screen now?

Yes, sir. Yep. Got it.

Sweet.

So with mine, I kinda went with this theme of, like, depth to dullness. Another, like, headline is sleigh blandness. And what I really wanted to go for here was, like, these nights of the round table protecting this ingredient list or sauce that's been passed down for generations, kind of, like, protected by warriors, coveted by kings, kind of just, like, something that's like a heirloom or heirloom that's been passed down, and just had some fun with, like, the battle scenes of, like like, the medieval times or dark ages and how the sauce has been able to just make it through the it's tried and too true and tested and still somehow makes it to your plate.

So I have if you click slave blandness, lead you to the product page.

I guess, kind of you can use a little Zoom little, interaction that I created as well, Kind of That's sick.

Some fun with it.

But, yeah, that was one Is that all done in Figma too?

Yeah. All in Figma. So I had some fun, learning some new Figma skills there. It's kind of like messing with different, like, layers that are actually just zoomed in to each spot. So it's not actually dragging it, but you're dragging to a next section of it that's a little bit zoomed in. So it's a cheating way to kind of, like, make that effect, but it's a fun fun So it's a cheating way to kind of, like, make that effect, but it's a fun fun way for a prototype to mess around with it.

But yeah. I mean, that gets across once you get into a a development and exercise. It's like, hey, developer. Here's exactly what we need done. Right?

Yeah. Totally. And so I had some fun messing around. I really wanted to get to, like, making a whole workable page. So I have the home screen. All of the buttons kinda light up when you scroll over them.

We have the ghost pepper flavor, Carolina Reaper flavor, tomatillo, and then we have a seasoning page.

When you scan over the standard edition, kind of a little pop up comes up. So I had some fun learning how to do pop ups.

Yeah. And that's, like, heirloom ingredients, protected by warriors, coveted by kings, legacy rebellion, unadulterated flavor. Had a lot of fun with, like, chat g p t and coming up with all of this copy here.

Yeah.

But yeah. It was a lot of fun.

But, yeah, if you can see a little background here, we have a screened, like, mace.

Kind of, like, went off of, like was originally inspired, like, by Paste Picante, but I figured, like, a more, like, headstrong way to say would be, like, mace, like, mace your taste buds or, like, mace your face or, like, something almost along the, like, the thing of, like, pepper spray. So I just thought it was, like, a more, like, in your face kind of version of Pey's Picante and kind of, like, yeah, more headstrong way to, like, get, like, a hot sauce. So we have the Hellfire Havoc, which is their main ghost pepper hot sauce. And then we got the Carolina Reaper, which is kind of the page shifts from light to dark mode.

And that's the Reaper's Rampage, which is the Carolina Reaper. And then we got the tomatillo, which is the tomatillo torment. And then if we click on the seasoning, it's gonna lead you down to where heat meets havoc, and that's the rubs and spices coming soon. So just had a lot of fun, like, prototyping, trying to make sure the play the page, like, all felt cohesive. Even though it's a little bit on the simpler side, I wanted to have fun where I could just really toggle through it and make a full on user experience.

That's super dope, man.

Oh, yeah.

I love how far you went with, with prototyping on it.

Yeah. No. This is so well thought out from start to finish. You just have everything in there, and it's really it's cool to see.

So cool.

Even that background image, like, I'm, like, trying to zoom my zoom my mind into what's going on in that in that background image on the spices coming soon. So cool, man.

When does the movie drop for this?

I know. Right?

Trail, like All of our brains are spinning like mine on, like, ad concepts and video concepts and all that.

That's really cool.

Yeah. Once Sora I just love that. I wanna try make sure to make a trailer.

Yeah.

Yeah. There you go. I I just love that you included even a page shift in the color theme. Like, it's so simple, but it's such, like, an impactful user experience.

Just, like, do that. I'm sure if I experience that, I do it over and over. Like, I don't know. I just wanna buy the green one because I like the page more than maybe the flavor itself.

You know?

And even even the concept itself, like, you know, the reason we started these back up was to help us dive more to Figma and learn new tick tricks, tips and tricks. So I love that you push yourself to kind of explore, like, the zoom in effect and all that stuff. So killer job, dude, because it's fun seeing that.

Thanks. Outsider looking in, that's, like, my favorite thing about this whole, challenge that you guys do is the way that you push each other to learn new stuff without the client pressure involved. Right?

A lot of times, it's it's so easy to get locked up in the deadlines that we've gotta hit for all the client work that we're doing, but this challenge seems like it really helps you guys push each other to learn new stuff, explore new things without the without the pressures involved. So it's it's really dope to see.

Yeah, man.

Cool. Thomas, I think you're up next, dude.

Way o.

Let's see. Let me hear you say way o.

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There you go.

Okay.

I did a a rebrand of the very famous Hoi Fong Foods Sriracha.

We've been obsessed with this in our house. Been using it on everything lately, and it recently was on back order. We had to order, like, three bottles of it. Waited, like, a couple months.

So we just kinda I just figured why not lean into this and give it a fresh look.

So the first thing I did was draw a new rooster.

Well, first, I should point out the sauce is kinda famous for the rooster.

And the founder of the sauce, it's his, I think he was born in the year of the of the rooster, so that's why he used it as a a mascot of sorts. So this sauce has actually developed a nickname, which is cock sauce or rooster sauce.

I haven't heard that before.

Rather than change that, I just kinda leaned into it and drew my own rooster and just kind of, isolated the head of the rooster and just made it really fun.

And, What what was your process for drawing that?

Just so that everybody hears it. We we talked a little bit a little bit about your, design style and illustration style in one of the previous podcasts. But can you give us just a quick rundown on your process for getting to that illustration?

Yeah.

I mean, for this one, I I really I really just wanted to go back to my roots and sketch on paper. So this one, I I I sketched out really rough, and I think I used my second sketch. It wasn't like anything I was trying to spend a bunch of time on. And then, took a photo of that with my iPad and traced it and polished it up in Procreate.

And then I slapped it on here and wrapped some text around it.

So dope, man. Looks so cool. That's nice.

You guys remember Thomas, what what's the text say under the rooster?

Like, directly into what's that text say?

No idea.

It says malarkey, WTF. Yeah.

Yeah. It's, I'd so Sriracha actually is a Thai sauce, but I found out recently that the founder is a Vietnamese Chinese man, and all of the language on there is Vietnamese and Chinese or Mandarin probably.

So, I don't know. I the whole time, I thought it was Thai, and it's not. But I still don't know what it says.

Gonna have to do a look up on it.

I love that little lightning bolt tongue you got going too.

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Big time.

Thomas, it's been crazy how long, how long, just starting a sketch by hand, like, how far that will really take you in design.

Like, every time I actually do some hand sketching first, I think it's really, opens up this creativity.

I recently realized that I still I I have to start on paper. Even with the iPad, I've been using iPad for a few years, but there's just something there's something that doesn't translate when I sketch in the iPad.

So I've I've been doing it a lot more lately, starting on a sketchbook and then taking pictures of that.

But, let's show you guys what's up. So one of the things I wanted to challenge myself with this, because it's part of the part of the point of the Figma challenge is learning Figma. I wanted to get down, like, the sticky stuff. So as we scroll, the product will stay with us.

And then, oh, I got some buttons that function too. Bloop. Bloop.

And then, this little recipe card kinda situation over here will stick with us for a bit too, and we'll cruise into this little section here. It's kind of a call out to ingredients, and you can click to learn more. And then we will leave behind this. Oh, I got the rooster sitting right here on the red thing. Thought that was.

And then we'll come down here, and I wanted to mess with some hover effects. So when you hover over this section, it starts to play a, like, a trailer. So there was a documentary done about the founder.

So it's like a trailer.

Is that him?

Yeah. That's him.

Yeah. I want that sweatshirt, but with your logo on it.

Fast. I'll fly a flag. I want all the stuff. It's pretty fun.

But, yeah, and then some some fun little functionality I was messing with, some button hovering, stuff like that.

Come down here, and it's just kind of, like, the same layout, but just your last, like, what are you what are you waiting for? You know, buy this shit.

Some reviews and a footer.

And that's that.

Dude, it's killing me how well those three colors work together and how simple the whole design aesthetic is with those three colors and, like, the scroll through of the the recipe card where the I mean, that whole card just, like, pops off the top in the hero section, but then when it hits right there in the red Yeah. That is so dope, man.

Nice work.

Thanks, dude.

What do we think about fun food.

Sweet fun foods, Thomas.

Seriously. We're gonna have to tag him in some social posts here. What do we think about putting this thing switch out Sriracha to mag and just leave everything else and put it on a red sweatshirt and throw it on the on the supply code, dude.

There we go.

Two of them.

Might have to do that.

Very nice work, man. I love I love seeing your illustrations, man. Like I like I said in the last pod with Manny, it's just, like, to to me, it's, like, unmistakable. I've got a bunch of your artwork sitting right here in the in the office with me, and, I love seeing it, dude.

Thanks, man. Appreciate that.

Yeah. RIDC. The proverbial hot seat is yours, dude. Make my eyeballs sweat. Hot seat. Woah.

Woah.

Do you see you might be muted?

Let me see if I can unmute you, dude. There you go.

My screen now?

Yeah.

Alright. Cool. So, I kinda went a little bit of each. I kinda went through a branding phase and then, you know, did a home page mock up just landing and then a a product detail page.

But, you know, these these kind of things, you kinda wait till that moment in the month where you feel inspired or feel the pressure to, like, I gotta get this done or I wanna get this done or I have a little bit of free time. Let's get this done. That came to me sitting on the couch one weekend. My my son had a fever, and I was just sitting there watching TV with him, and I was like, I'm gonna go grab my laptop and and work on this.

So I ended up calling it, which is fever in Spanish, just because I I was sitting next to my son with the fever, and it felt appropriate.

So, yeah, I kinda did this brand of feel the feel the fever, fear the addiction.

Sauce is hot. Usually tastes like shit. Like, I'm a big, big hot sauce fan, and, a lot of times when I taste really hot hot sauce, it's like it's hot for hot sake and, doesn't taste very good.

So I I feel like, you know, when you find that hot sauce that's really hot but still tastes really good, that's like those are the gems. So I kinda wanted to promote that that it's it's hot, but it still tastes good.

So you'll kinda see some of the just, like, stuff I did in the branding, handcrafted, small batch, sweat it out, hot sauce, came up with three flavors, the Serrano lime, moruga mango, which is after the moruga scorpion pepper, and then, reaper red. So I kinda have this, really cool color palette going with this. And then, I think, as you guys know probably from the last Doug section, I've been heavily leaning into AI. So you saw a lot of AI, imagery, within this, which was getting just developing chops and prompting and getting to what I need. So show showing some hot wings back here.

If I go to the next screen, we'll get to a product detail page.

Again, leaning into AI with the imagery behind this. Wanna do something different. I think the typical landing page, you see product and and thumbnail carousels on the left and information and buy now button on the right. So just, again, no client involved here. No, like, you know, UI research. Just wanted to try something different, for this page.

So it kinda flipped that around where we have, you know, Serrano lime hot sauce.

Again, had fun with the copy where heat meets zest and a fiery tango of flavor. Our serrano lime hot sauce is not for the faint of heart, but it's definitely for those who crave a kick with every bite. Picture this, strong peppers bursting with both heat dancing in perfect harmony with the zesty citrus punch of lime.

It's like a flavor explosion that hits you right in the taste buds.

So that, came up with some, you know, just fun fun quote, branding quotes. This is the stuff that made hair look the way it does.

That's good. Just kind of, an ex be able to expand to see, like, what are the actual scovial heat as all hot sauces, like, get measured in scovial units, ingredients, some try it ons, kinda thing. And then, I just did some just key art for the hot sauce. So, just did some compositing in in Photoshop of putting the bottle with some exploding peppers.

Sauce hurts so damn good.

I've I've always said that when I eat hot sauce, people see me sweating my face off and go, why you did that to yourself? And I always respond, it's like that. It hurts so good. Like, it's Yeah.

I don't know. It's kinda like that addicting thing. It's like, yes. It's uncomfortable, but it's but it's so good.

So, kinda use that here. The sauce hurts so damn good. But, yeah, fun fun to do this little key art and then, finished up with kinda just a little, branding board to see color palette and how it all came together.

So cool.

So dope, man.

I love some of the small touches there too. Like, the the rooster head on the top of the hot sauce bottle, stuck out to me in a few of the earlier frames that you shared. Obviously, we see it here, but is that another AI image?

Is or is that something that you, sourced the stock or vector, and then just took it into Illustrator.

I just got some references from AI, but it was, so, Matt, I I think you've heard the story.

We were with DK, in, Nashville. We went to go get hot chicken. This is years and years and years ago. And, I don't if you guys don't, DK founder of Mag, he is like a glutton for punishment when it comes to hot sauce.

Like, I've never seen him like, nothing's ever been too hot for him. He'll put the whole spice rack at the Thai restaurant on his food. Like, it's just almost like like I don't know. It's like Torturous.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We went to this place and, they had, Nashville hot, Nashville hot chicken, and there was, like, different spice levels. And, where this started and where I was gonna go with it was there was this one, and it was called cluck your face off. And it was, like, not for the faint of heart, cluck your face off. And, of course, DK is like, I want the hottest one.

Let's go for it. And I will say it's the only time in the, you know, twenty years I've known him that he wasn't able to finish his food. Like, he, like, threw up the white flag and was like, nope. I'm done.

So how this started out was gonna, like, explore down the clock your flick face off, but then, just got and, like I said, my son was sitting there with a fever, and I was talking to him about this. And we're like, okay. Let's just call it fever. Let him participate.

He could was kinda watching me while I was working, so it it turned into to hot sauce.

But, yeah, that was that that's the story behind there.

That's so cool.

I am constantly blown away and, and intrigued by what you guys are doing. Definitely appreciate y'all sharing, what you came up with for the challenge here, and would love to figure out a place to put some of this artwork up so that people can, he and haw over it in a little bit closer detail. But, yeah, like I said, I appreciate it. What do you guys have any ideas for what's next in the design challenge? Is there something on the table for the for the coming month?

Yeah. We do. We, we decided, the next theme is gonna be around a grocer.

It's gonna be Whole Foods.

We're gonna play, in the realm of an app, and that could be any part of an app, whether it's a, you know, a product finder within the app, whether it's a store locator, whether it's, you know, map map my shopping experience. It's gonna be something, in terms of an app around Whole Foods. So, that will be the next one.

Super dope. Right on. Well, hopefully, we get the opportunity to do another review like this. It's always it's always rad, and I think it's cool for the audience to see, you know, what the thought process was, getting from point a to z and all the tools that were used in the in the making of. So I appreciate all you guys.

Last thing before we drop off here, I just wanna go around the crew and do one thing everybody's stoked on. Can be inside work, outside work, life, family, whatever you have going on. Just do a quick little rapid fire of what you guys are stoked on and looking forward to right now.

Thomas, we'll start with you.

Oh, I have a bunch of friends coming into town this weekend. They haven't been out to the property yet, so that'll be a blast. And we're going to see we're going to see, long time friends play a show up at Meow Wolf about four hours north.

Nice, dude. Very cool. Enjoy that. Burn, what do you got going on?

I got to see my grandma yesterday. Haven't seen her in a while. Lena's number one.

Very Very happy to hear that.

She lived local to you or a little bit further away?

No. I'm in, Ohio at the moment. I just gotta see her.

Oh, you are? So Oh, cool. Are you are you the favorite?

What was that?

Are you the favorite franchise?

Oh, definitely. I'm always Absolutely.

By a long shot. Noah, what's on your what's on your list, dude?

I'm hitting Arkansas this weekend, so I'm looking forward to hanging out, checking out some new spots, and, seeing the bros.

Nice.

You're gonna meet up with gone with your Potentially.

Yeah. I think that's the plan. We'll see.

Cool. Very cool. We picked Sui. Right?

Yeah. I picked Sui. Phew.

You gotta call the hogs right now?

Yeah, dude. Let's do it.

Get the We are, baby.

Red lights rocking, dude. Manny, what's going on with you, dude, other than having some some company in Arkansas this weekend?

Dude, I I don't know what I did to deserve the whole k crew coming out here, but I am stoked, man. So definitely looking forward to that.

And, actually, Thomas, I got some family coming in too. So I'm I'm really excited. I got family coming in in a couple weeks. I think they all come now.

They're, like, winter's gone and spring's here. They're like, alright. Now we'll come visit. So Yeah.

I don't blame them. Yeah.

And, also, my kids are back in sports. Like, little league started up, and I just love spending time outside with them and going to the games and hanging out and stuff like that. So I just been having a blast. My Julian started t ball now.

And since he takes after older brother, he just but he's the trash talker. Right? My oldest was humble, and Julian's trash talker. So it's just been fun, getting out there and spend some time with the kids and the fam.

So that's been cool.

Love it, dude. DC, what's happening with you?

I think polar opposite to Manny. Every weekend of mine is spent at the baseball fields and softball. So, actually looking forward to a good break from that.

Wifey and I are actually, next weekend, headed out to Stagecoach for the country Oh, cool.

So looking looking forward to checking out Paul Coffin there.

Heck, yeah. That's me up on stage. Yeah.

Very cool. Right on, you guys. Well, listen again. I appreciate the time. Thanks for sharing everything you guys are working on.

You guys are definitely keeping me stoked. So until next time, I'll bid you ado. Thanks. Cheers.

And bye bye. Peace.

Later, guys. Cheers.

Cheers, guys.